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Re: Two more important consultations : Prince of Wales Road eastbound and Chalk Farm Road

Berwyn Rutherford
 

Have you got a rota Jean? I would love to help. Berwyn


From: main@camdencyclists.groups.io <main@camdencyclists.groups.io> on behalf of Jean Dollimore <jean@...>
Sent: Saturday, September 25, 2021 12:54:01 PM
To: main@camdencyclists.groups.io <main@camdencyclists.groups.io>
Subject: Re: [camdencyclists] Two more important consultations : Prince of Wales Road eastbound and Chalk Farm Road
 
Thank you, Elena and John and the one other person who has offered to help with handing out cards in Prince of Wales Road and Chalk Farm Road.

If we’re to do a good job of catching cyclists and persuading them to reply to the consultation, we really do need more helpers so that we can have people out there at busy times on most days in the next two weeks.

So please consider sparing a little of your time - it will be worth it.

Thank you

Jean






On 23 Sep 2021, at 11:04, EleNdubz <elena.moynihan@...> wrote:

Hi there,

definitely, count me in for both, these are my local lanes !

Thanks
Elena

On Thu, 23 Sept 2021 at 10:18, Jean Dollimore <jean@...> wrote:
Camden is now consulting on making permanent the pop-up schemes installed last summer. These are 

 Prince of Wales Road eastbound (closing date 11th October)


Chalk Farm Road – and the southern end of Haverstock Hill (closing date 13th October)

In both cases the proposal is to replace the bollard protected lanes with stepped tracks and to make other improvements.

Camden Council writes to people who live in the area, but it is left to us to contact the people who cycle on these routes so please would you spare the time to reply to both consultations via the response form at the bottom of the two pages linked above.

Many thanks to all of you who helped publicising the York Way consultation by handing out cards to people cycling on the route. 

This time we have made a card with information about Prince of Wales Road eastbound on one side and Chalk Farm Road on the other side. The plan is to hand out cards on or near to these two roads.

Please let me know if you would be willing to help during the next two weeks.


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We will be replying on behalf of Camden Cycling Campaign based on comments we receive, either on this mailing list or via CycleScape

Prince of Wales Road 

Chalk Farm Road 

Note that if you want to comment on CycleScape (and haven’t yet done so) you will need to sign up.

===============

Jean





Re: Two more important consultations : Prince of Wales Road eastbound and Chalk Farm Road

Jean Dollimore
 

Thank you, Elena and John and the one other person who has offered to help with handing out cards in Prince of Wales Road and Chalk Farm Road.

If we’re to do a good job of catching cyclists and persuading them to reply to the consultation, we really do need more helpers so that we can have people out there at busy times on most days in the next two weeks.

So please consider sparing a little of your time - it will be worth it.

Thank you

Jean






On 23 Sep 2021, at 11:04, EleNdubz <elena.moynihan@...> wrote:

Hi there,

definitely, count me in for both, these are my local lanes !

Thanks
Elena

On Thu, 23 Sept 2021 at 10:18, Jean Dollimore <jean@...> wrote:
Camden is now consulting on making permanent the pop-up schemes installed last summer. These are 

 Prince of Wales Road eastbound (closing date 11th October)


Chalk Farm Road – and the southern end of Haverstock Hill (closing date 13th October)

In both cases the proposal is to replace the bollard protected lanes with stepped tracks and to make other improvements.

Camden Council writes to people who live in the area, but it is left to us to contact the people who cycle on these routes so please would you spare the time to reply to both consultations via the response form at the bottom of the two pages linked above.

Many thanks to all of you who helped publicising the York Way consultation by handing out cards to people cycling on the route. 

This time we have made a card with information about Prince of Wales Road eastbound on one side and Chalk Farm Road on the other side. The plan is to hand out cards on or near to these two roads.

Please let me know if you would be willing to help during the next two weeks.


===========


We will be replying on behalf of Camden Cycling Campaign based on comments we receive, either on this mailing list or via CycleScape

Prince of Wales Road 

Chalk Farm Road 

Note that if you want to comment on CycleScape (and haven’t yet done so) you will need to sign up.

===============

Jean





Re: Two more important consultations : Prince of Wales Road eastbound and Chalk Farm Road

John Chamberlain
 

Count me in for leafleting, Jean. 



Regards 
John Chamberlain


-------- Original message --------
From: Jean Dollimore <jean@...>
Date: 23/09/2021 10:18 (GMT+00:00)
To: CCC <CamdenCyclists@groups.io>
Subject: [camdencyclists] Two more important consultations : Prince of Wales Road eastbound and Chalk Farm Road

Camden is now consulting on making permanent the pop-up schemes installed last summer. These are 

 Prince of Wales Road eastbound (closing date 11th October)


Chalk Farm Road – and the southern end of Haverstock Hill (closing date 13th October)

In both cases the proposal is to replace the bollard protected lanes with stepped tracks and to make other improvements.

Camden Council writes to people who live in the area, but it is left to us to contact the people who cycle on these routes so please would you spare the time to reply to both consultations via the response form at the bottom of the two pages linked above.

Many thanks to all of you who helped publicising the York Way consultation by handing out cards to people cycling on the route. 

This time we have made a card with information about Prince of Wales Road eastbound on one side and Chalk Farm Road on the other side. The plan is to hand out cards on or near to these two roads.

Please let me know if you would be willing to help during the next two weeks.


===========


We will be replying on behalf of Camden Cycling Campaign based on comments we receive, either on this mailing list or via CycleScape

Prince of Wales Road 

Chalk Farm Road 

Note that if you want to comment on CycleScape (and haven’t yet done so) you will need to sign up.

===============

Jean


Re: Two more important consultations : Prince of Wales Road eastbound and Chalk Farm Road

Elena
 

Hi there,

definitely, count me in for both, these are my local lanes !

Thanks
Elena


On Thu, 23 Sept 2021 at 10:18, Jean Dollimore <jean@...> wrote:
Camden is now consulting on making permanent the pop-up schemes installed last summer. These are 

 Prince of Wales Road eastbound (closing date 11th October)


Chalk Farm Road – and the southern end of Haverstock Hill (closing date 13th October)

In both cases the proposal is to replace the bollard protected lanes with stepped tracks and to make other improvements.

Camden Council writes to people who live in the area, but it is left to us to contact the people who cycle on these routes so please would you spare the time to reply to both consultations via the response form at the bottom of the two pages linked above.

Many thanks to all of you who helped publicising the York Way consultation by handing out cards to people cycling on the route. 

This time we have made a card with information about Prince of Wales Road eastbound on one side and Chalk Farm Road on the other side. The plan is to hand out cards on or near to these two roads.

Please let me know if you would be willing to help during the next two weeks.


===========


We will be replying on behalf of Camden Cycling Campaign based on comments we receive, either on this mailing list or via CycleScape

Prince of Wales Road 

Chalk Farm Road 

Note that if you want to comment on CycleScape (and haven’t yet done so) you will need to sign up.

===============

Jean


Two more important consultations : Prince of Wales Road eastbound and Chalk Farm Road

Jean Dollimore
 

Camden is now consulting on making permanent the pop-up schemes installed last summer. These are 

 Prince of Wales Road eastbound (closing date 11th October)


Chalk Farm Road – and the southern end of Haverstock Hill (closing date 13th October)

In both cases the proposal is to replace the bollard protected lanes with stepped tracks and to make other improvements.

Camden Council writes to people who live in the area, but it is left to us to contact the people who cycle on these routes so please would you spare the time to reply to both consultations via the response form at the bottom of the two pages linked above.

Many thanks to all of you who helped publicising the York Way consultation by handing out cards to people cycling on the route. 

This time we have made a card with information about Prince of Wales Road eastbound on one side and Chalk Farm Road on the other side. The plan is to hand out cards on or near to these two roads.

Please let me know if you would be willing to help during the next two weeks.


===========


We will be replying on behalf of Camden Cycling Campaign based on comments we receive, either on this mailing list or via CycleScape

Prince of Wales Road 

Chalk Farm Road 

Note that if you want to comment on CycleScape (and haven’t yet done so) you will need to sign up.

===============

Jean


Re: Car blocking cycle lane station Road Woodgreen

John Chamberlain
 

Luke - I am not sure this is the best place to report these incidents to be honest. If this is Wood Green again I suggest you email Bob Hare direct. You also need to give location and time and date.

 

Regards

John Chamberlain

Coordinator

Camden Cycling Campaign

 

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E: john@...

 

On 20/09/21 23:27, Luke Pearson via groups.io wrote:
Hello everyone 

I noticed  an incident of people using the  bike line as a parking spot, as I was walking rather than cycling I took a photo ( he was blocking the cycling Lane on double yellow lines today at 12:00pm 
From Luke 




Sent from Luke Pearson's IPhone   






Car blocking cycle lane station Road Woodgreen

Luke Pearson
 

Hello everyone

I noticed an incident of people using the bike line as a parking spot, as I was walking rather than cycling I took a photo ( he was blocking the cycling Lane on double yellow lines today at 12:00pm
From Luke




Sent from Luke Pearson's IPhone


Re: York Way Cycle Lanes - deadline today

Jean Dollimore
 

Today is your last chance to reply in support of making the York Way Cycle lanes permanent.

So if you haven’t already done so, please go to the contact form here and fill it in – it shouldn’t take more than 5 minutes.



We suggest that you reply along the following lines:
Q8: “Strongly Agree” – to all of the proposals
Q9: “Agree” – to the first group of six points – you can leave the remaining Q9 points blank
Q10: Give a reason why you like it, e.g.: “Riding up York Way is so much easier with the new cycle lanes”  If you can think of something orginal, then officers will be able to quote it in their report.

Jean


On 1 Sep 2021, at 16:27, John Chamberlain <john@...> wrote:

Many of you will have already enjoyed using the Pop Up cycle lanes on York Way that run between Hungerford Road in the north and Wharfdale Road in the south. As required under the Experimental Traffic Order, Camden Council are now consulting on whether to make the changes permanent or to remove some or all of them. If they are made permanent, the temporary lanes will be replaced with stepped tracks and there will be further improvements at the junctions and pedestrian crossings and a lot of improvements to the streetscape.

This is a very important consultation; if passed it will make permanent almost 2km of an important link in the cycle network and will change the nature of the street by reducing the domination of motor traffic.

This consultation is on Camden’s website at:

https://consultations.wearecamden.org/supporting-communities/york-way-safe-and-healthy-street-scheme/ which also has some very good before and after visualisations.

The Online Survey is at the bottom of that page and is straightforward to fill in. Please would you find time to reply as an individual as it would be good for Camden to have plenty of positive replies.

We will respond on behalf of CCC in enthusiastic support of the proposals and will also describe any potential problems that are reported to us. One missing item that we will be asking for is a protected right turn into the Kings Cross development just north of the canal but do let us know of any other issues, either on this forum or by emailing info@...

Thanks in advance!
--

 


Regards
John

John Chamberlain
Coordinator
Camden Cycling Campaign

 




Re: Car blocking cycle lane station Road Woodgreen

Bob Hare
 

John, Luke
I put in a query to the council, and I've had a reply which I'll dig
out from my other system and post here.
I see you've photographed two cars today Luke. I'll send these on to
the helpful officer who replied, and it may prompt the parking team to
give this location (outside a popular shop) a bit more attention.
I think it's useful to note the times of day (as you've done) -
parking there probably occurs more often at particular times.
Regards
Bob

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On 17/09/2021, John Chamberlain <john@camdencyclists.org.uk> wrote:
Looks like Haringey, Luke. Suggest you report it to them; there was a
councillor who was very responsive but I have lost his name.

Regards

Regards

John

On 17/09/21 21:33, Luke Pearson via groups.io wrote:
Hello everyone

I noticed an incident of people using the bike line as a parking spot,
as I was walking rather than cycling I took a photo ( he was blocking the
cycling Lane on double yellow lines today at 12:00pm
From Luke




Sent from Luke Pearson's IPhone








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Mobile: 07870 157 703
Tel/msg: 020 8340 7486
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Re: Car blocking cycle lane station Road Woodgreen

John Chamberlain
 

Looks like Haringey, Luke. Suggest you report it to them; there was a councillor who was very responsive but I have lost his name.

 

Regards

John

 

On 17/09/21 21:33, Luke Pearson via groups.io wrote:
Hello everyone 

I noticed  an incident of people using the  bike line as a parking spot, as I was walking rather than cycling I took a photo ( he was blocking the cycling Lane on double yellow lines today at 12:00pm 
From Luke 




Sent from Luke Pearson's IPhone   






Car blocking cycle lane station Road Woodgreen

Luke Pearson
 

Hello everyone

I noticed an incident of people using the bike line as a parking spot, as I was walking rather than cycling I took a photo ( he was blocking the cycling Lane on double yellow lines today at 12:00pm
From Luke




Sent from Luke Pearson's IPhone


Re: Prince of Wales Road Safe and Healthy Streets Consultation - We Are Camden - Citizen Space

John Chamberlain
 

Thanks, Christopher - I have passed this on to Camden asking them to check.

Elena - yes, maybe we will need to leaflet as well as campaign online. We'll take a look at the Commonplace responses to see what the mood is! One problem is that Camden consult local residents and businesses but a road like this is used by a lot of cyclists from other parts of Camden and beyond who may not know about the consultation (and don't necessarily follow us online or on Twitter).

 

Regards

John

 

On 17/09/21 09:30, EleNdubz wrote:
Do we need to do a leafleting for this too, like for the York Way ?

On Fri, 17 Sept 2021 at 09:19, Christopher Edwards <edwardscje@...> wrote:
Apologies if this link has been sent round the group already - I think this is the consultation to make POW Road changes permanent and expand them slightly.

There seems to be a glitch in the form, in that the website does not let you submit the survey unless you mark at least one box on the things you don't like section. I ticked the 'other' box in that section, and then added text saying I do like the scheme and this seemed to be a glitch


Re: Prince of Wales Road Safe and Healthy Streets Consultation - We Are Camden - Citizen Space

Elena
 

Do we need to do a leafleting for this too, like for the York Way ?

On Fri, 17 Sept 2021 at 09:19, Christopher Edwards <edwardscje@...> wrote:
Apologies if this link has been sent round the group already - I think this is the consultation to make POW Road changes permanent and expand them slightly.

There seems to be a glitch in the form, in that the website does not let you submit the survey unless you mark at least one box on the things you don't like section. I ticked the 'other' box in that section, and then added text saying I do like the scheme and this seemed to be a glitch


Prince of Wales Road Safe and Healthy Streets Consultation - We Are Camden - Citizen Space

Christopher Edwards
 

Apologies if this link has been sent round the group already - I think this is the consultation to make POW Road changes permanent and expand them slightly.

There seems to be a glitch in the form, in that the website does not let you submit the survey unless you mark at least one box on the things you don't like section. I ticked the 'other' box in that section, and then added text saying I do like the scheme and this seemed to be a glitch


We have the verdict on traffic filters in your city - let’s make it count.

seymour susan
 


Best wishes

Susan

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From: Hirra Khan Adeogun - Possible <hello@...>
Date: Thu, 16 Sept 2021 at 16:31
Subject: We have the verdict on traffic filters in your city - let’s make it count.
To: <sseymour137@...>


 
 

Hi Susan,

City councils across the UK want to take action on climate change, but are often unsure how different interventions will land with their local residents. 


Thanks to the help of our volunteers, we now know that installing blocks, bollards or planters, on streets to create safer space for walking and cycling, is a Council intervention that has public support

 

In the last 18 months, traffic filters became a bit of a hot topic in the press and on social media, with these interventions appearing divisive and with misinformation. Despite the attention, until now no-one had a clear understanding of how residents of streets with older filters felt about them. So that’s where we came in.

Over the summer, Possible campaigners and local volunteers were out knocking on doors to hear what communities in Birmingham, Bristol, Leeds and London, had to say about living near traffic filters.

And what did we find? People love their traffic filters. A massive 84.6% of residents who lived on streets with older traffic filters, want to keep it on their street*. 

With the evidence on our side, it’s time to share the results with our local councils and encourage them to introduce more low-traffic streets as a priority. 

Will you use our easy tool to write to your councillors with the evidence to ask them to take action?

We are really keen to hear of any responses you receive so that we can plan how to best engage with decision makers. Please forward councillor responses to: cfc@...

Thanks for all you do to take climate action,


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Car blocking cycle lane station Road Woodgreen

Luke Pearson
 

Hello everyone

I noticed an incident of people using the bike line as a parking spot, as I was walking rather than cycling I took a photo ( he was blocking the cycling Lane on double yellow lines today at 12:00pm
From Luke




Sent from Luke Pearson's IPhone


Parklet Fun Action

Steve Prowse
 

Family bike ride on 25th Sept & sit or do bike maintenance in a place where you'd like to see a Parklet. 


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Steve Prowse


moderated Re: Mick Farrant

Steven Edwards
 

Good move John. Thanks
Steven


On 13 Sep 2021, at 15:44, John Chamberlain <john@...> wrote:

Closing down discussion on this now, please, and on the Cargo Bike subject.

Regards
John Chamberlain
Coordinator
Camden Cycling Campaign
 
 
On 13/09/21 13:40, Mick Farrant via groups.io wrote:
Thanks Paul I am 79 on Thursday and can not cycle as in isolation for the next fortnight. My E bike is essential to my life. At least I give my proper name. 
 
From: main@camdencyclists.groups.io <main@camdencyclists.groups.io> On Behalf Of paulbraithwaite via groups.io
Sent: 13 September 2021 13:32
To: main@camdencyclists.groups.io
Subject: [camdencyclists] Mick Farrant
 
I don't know moyelbushra but I'm with Mick Farrant on this.  
His polite post suggested that we cyclist will not win support if we make selfish strident demands such as replacement of a parking space with a dedicated cargo bike space "right outside their home".
 
Being rude to a 78 year-old lifelong cyclist was unwarranted.
 
Regards,
 
Paul Braithwaite
 
 
On Monday, September 13, 2021, 12:48:30 PM GMT+1, Mick Farrant via groups.io <mirog@...> wrote: 
 
 

Fact: I have cycled in London almost every day since 1976 when I was 34 and been a member of CCC for many years. I am by no means anti cycling but think I have a right to make my views known .I have never posted anything about cycling on Next Door. If you as a member of CC have the support of this organisation I will cancel my membership immediately. 

 

 

 

From: main@camdencyclists.groups.io <main@camdencyclists.groups.io> On Behalf Of moyelbushra via groups.io
Sent: 13 September 2021 11:39
To: main@camdencyclists.groups.io
Subject: Re: [camdencyclists] Cargo Bike news

 

Sorry, Mike, but I am calling you out as, very clearly, an out & out troll. All you are doing is spouting the exact same anti-cyclist trash you see on NextDoor all the time. They all begin with "I've been a cyclist for xxx number of years" (meaning I learnt to ride a bike when I was 7 & have never done so in my adult life since), they then invariably go on to "yes, of course we want to save the planet, but what about all the disabled people etc who really 'need' a car?" (what percentage of people might that actually be, I wonder), before the inevitable "I nearly got / saw someone nearly getting, run over by some rabid cyclists jumping lights / cycling on the pavement". It's exactly the same nonsense. This is meant to be a forum for people who are interested in actively campaigning FOR cycling. All you are interested in is sowing disharmony, arguing with people, & pushing your anti-cycling claptrap. MODERATORS!!!  



Re: Covent Garden Consultation - Short Deadline

seymour susan
 

Done.
Also I managed to talk to a few people at the street party and hand out some cards about York Way. It was a bit difficult to get into conversations as I didn't have a big sign and didn't want to be caught in large crowds.
Best wishes

Susan


On Fri, 10 Sept 2021 at 18:13, John Chamberlain <john@...> wrote:

Camden and Westminster are consulting on a Traffic Management scheme in Covent Garden including the Seven Dials area.  The deadline for responses is Monday 13th; apologies for the short notice.

Many of you will know that through traffic has been excluded from the Seven Dials area in Camden during the day since July 2020. If implemented, this new proposal would keep most of those changes and add restrictions on the Westminster side of the boundary. Details are here https://coventgarden.commonplace.is/about

You can respond here https://www.smartsurvey.co.uk/s/CGEngagement/ . We understand that there is fairly significant opposition so please take a few minutes to do so and say you support the proposals. In our formal response we said:

  • We support the proposals but they don't go far enough
  • The whole area should be made into a proper low traffic neighbourhood by closing other rat-runs especially Great Queen Street
  • Monmouth Street should be closed to all traffic to retain its pedestrian nature.
  • All streets should be open to two-way cycling

Thanks and I hope you have a good weekend.

PS - We'll be at the Camden New Town Festival in Camden Square on Sunday. Maybe see some of you there! Details are on our website.

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Regards

John


John Chamberlain

Coordinator

Camden Cycling Campaign

 

W: camdencyclists.org.uk

E: john@...

T: +44 20 7485 2685

M: +44 788 755 2391

 


moderated Re: Mick Farrant

John Chamberlain
 

Closing down discussion on this now, please, and on the Cargo Bike subject.

Regards

John Chamberlain

Coordinator

Camden Cycling Campaign

 

W: camdencyclists.org.uk

E: john@...

 

On 13/09/21 13:40, Mick Farrant via groups.io wrote:

Thanks Paul I am 79 on Thursday and can not cycle as in isolation for the next fortnight. My E bike is essential to my life. At least I give my proper name.

 

From: main@camdencyclists.groups.io <main@camdencyclists.groups.io> On Behalf Of paulbraithwaite via groups.io
Sent: 13 September 2021 13:32
To: main@camdencyclists.groups.io
Subject: [camdencyclists] Mick Farrant

 

I don't know moyelbushra but I'm with Mick Farrant on this.  

His polite post suggested that we cyclist will not win support if we make selfish strident demands such as replacement of a parking space with a dedicated cargo bike space "right outside their home".

 

Being rude to a 78 year-old lifelong cyclist was unwarranted.

 

Regards,

 

Paul Braithwaite

 

 

On Monday, September 13, 2021, 12:48:30 PM GMT+1, Mick Farrant via groups.io <mirog@...> wrote:

 

 

Fact: I have cycled in London almost every day since 1976 when I was 34 and been a member of CCC for many years. I am by no means anti cycling but think I have a right to make my views known .I have never posted anything about cycling on Next Door. If you as a member of CC have the support of this organisation I will cancel my membership immediately.

 

 

 

From: main@camdencyclists.groups.io <main@camdencyclists.groups.io> On Behalf Of moyelbushra via groups.io
Sent: 13 September 2021 11:39
To: main@camdencyclists.groups.io
Subject: Re: [camdencyclists] Cargo Bike news

 

Sorry, Mike, but I am calling you out as, very clearly, an out & out troll. All you are doing is spouting the exact same anti-cyclist trash you see on NextDoor all the time. They all begin with "I've been a cyclist for xxx number of years" (meaning I learnt to ride a bike when I was 7 & have never done so in my adult life since), they then invariably go on to "yes, of course we want to save the planet, but what about all the disabled people etc who really 'need' a car?" (what percentage of people might that actually be, I wonder), before the inevitable "I nearly got / saw someone nearly getting, run over by some rabid cyclists jumping lights / cycling on the pavement". It's exactly the same nonsense. This is meant to be a forum for people who are interested in actively campaigning FOR cycling. All you are interested in is sowing disharmony, arguing with people, & pushing your anti-cycling claptrap. MODERATORS!!! 

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